In consideration of this
week’s reading, I had the honor of interviewing Mr. Frazier Wilson, VP of Shell Oil Company Foundation and Director,
Social Investment. He provided several thoughts regarding Corporate Social
Responsibility from a global energy company perspective. After interviewing Mr. Wilson I had an
opportunity to interview via Q&A by email a gentleman that was a financial
employee at Enron during the fallout. Mr.
Brian Cruver, former Enron Energy Trader and Author of Anatomy of Greed: The
Unshredded Truth from an Enron Insider and USC Alumni, afforded me answers
to a few questions. Mr. Cruver gives his thoughts on
financial reporting since the Enron fallout and whether it is a social
responsibility.
In my opinion Shell has
evolved as a socially responsible company from challenges in the past including
the sinking of the Brent Spar. They have followed the unspoken guidelines,
which includes integrating business and society (Porter & Kramer, 2006), of
making social responsibility an integral part of their overall business
strategy and look at CSR as sustainable development for the company. Additionally, Wilson identifies three key
areas, community, education and environment, of sustainable efforts and
commitments, which are sweet spots where initiatives are good for both profits
and social welfare (Franklin 2008). Finally, Wilson gives his thoughts as to
why financial reporting is a social responsibility and being transparent is one
factor.
Please hear the entire interview on voice thread for
Wilson’s complete comments: https://voicethread.com/share/3219645/
What is Shell’s business rationale for its “Social
Responsibility” efforts?
“The way shell views its
involvement in the community is it’ really is part of your license to operate.
Where you have a workforce presence, you want to be a part of that community so
you can build trust. And also ensure they have quality of life you encourage
your employees in the community in that space. As we look at what we do, we just
don’t do it from the standpoint of business. We do it from the standpoint of
creating a better environment for those that help you with your energy access.
We don’t look at it as corporate sustainability; we look at it as sustainable
development.”
What makes a company like Shell Socially Responsible?
“Part of being socially
responsible, sustainable development for us, is engaging and trying to address
community needs as well and look for those society issues where our expertise
and our employees can add value. We focus in community, education and
environment… (Wilson elaborates on these areas) all these things are stuff we
deal with in society as a whole. If we can be apart of that and use our
expertise as a technical company and our expertise and interest of our
employees that helps us be a better and more responsible company and the ideal
partner and employer.”
Do you feel Shell is doing “Social Responsibility”
well and why?
“I feel Shell is doing a good
job with our outreach to the community. Being in my role I would love for us to
have additional resources to do more but again with that as most companies and
most families are dealing with you have limited resources and try to manage
those resources accordingly and find the best impact and return for that
investment.” As Frazier continues, he
talks about how SR means being more strategic in their partnerships. ”We are
more strategic in who we partner with. “
In light of what has happened in the energy industry
with Enron and a few others, destroying investor and employee trust, do you
think financial reporting is a social responsibility?
“Financial reporting is a
social responsibility. You are required through SEC. Shell stepped out early with
our Sustainability Report. We came out and we are very transparent with what we
are doing with our operations, our financial even including our social
investment activity. Again it helps the public get a better understanding of
what you do, why you do it and how you do it.”
How does Shell connect the two, Financial
Responsibility (or reporting) & Social Responsibility?
“One way we connect the two…with
Shell safety is paramount. So when we
look at new projects and new developments the first thing you look at is
safety. But the other aspect of that is what would be your impact to that
community. Our commitment is that we will not harm the community. It will
either be the same or better than it was when we entered into that project. “
Wilson follows up with what
Shell considers when they are going through their business justification.
How does Shell see its future with Social Responsibility?
“Again, as we continue to
look for the opportunities to have an impact you want to partner with organizations
who are sound and meet the needs of the community. Again we’ll continue to look
for ways where we can add value to the community as well as meet our business
needs. The two go hand and hand. If you treat them as silo operations you will
have gaps and you will miss opportunities. But when you partner and look at it,
as one you will have a stronger product a stronger outcome and a stronger community.
“
MR. BRIAN CRUVER
Following are the Cruver questions and answers. There is
no voice thread on these. The Q&A was done via email.
How do you think financial reporting to the
public has changed today?
Generally, reporting is more difficult for companies, and there's more
"prison risk" for executives; however, the public is not really
gaining any more insight (with respect to an investment in a company) than they
were previously.
What do you feel the future looks like for
investor relations…where is it headed?
Individual
investors continue to wonder what it is the company may be hiding, while
institutional investors generally have an inside track. The game is fixed.
Investor relations isn't really headed anywhere different.
Can the average individual investor really
see what is going-on with a company through its financial report?
No.
But they can be aware of that reality, and choose investments based on the
track record and trustworthiness of management.
What do you feel is the most important
information in a financial report that investors and employees should look for?
I look at revenue and margins, and try to time
investments when both are accelerating (and before hype has led to
overvaluation). And who is in charge.
Do you think financial reporting is a
“Corporate Social Responsibility”?
No.
CSR is not a regulatory requirement. And the most socially irresponsible
companies are very good at financial reporting.
What role do you think corporate
communications plays in gaining public trust?
Not sure which aspect of corporate comm you
are referring to. But I see public trust developing from every function of the
company, from how executives and employees behave, to how sales and marketing
represents the product, to what PR tells the media, to what the CFO tells Wall
Street. Public trust is achieved via a collective effort of all aspects of an
organization.
In conclusion, I think much
has changed in financial reporting as far as making the companies more
accountable since the Enron fallout but as far as the investor or employee is
concerned not much has changed in trust or helping them to better identify
things that could go wrong with a company through the report. As Cruver
suggested, you have to look at and be aware of other things. Lastly, I found it
interesting that Wilson felt financial reporting was a social responsibility
and Cruver felt it was not but felt that the companies that are socially
responsible are good at financial reporting. Based on Wilsons interview Shell has
incorporated financial reporting in their CSR plans perhaps making it one of
the reasons why they feel they have separated themselves from the rest of the
energy pack. This could be a competitive advantage.
REFERENCES
REFERENCES
Franklin, D. (2008) Just Good
Business: A Special Report on Corporate Social Responsibility,
The Economist,
January 19, pp. 1-14.
Porter & Kramer (2006),
Strategy and Society, Harvard Business
Review.
Interesting interview, Audrey. What do you think he meant by, "the most socially irresponsible companies are very good at financial reporting"? I also liked that he focused on the importance of safety, which was echoed in Will's post on BP. The Porter and Kramer (2006) article mentioned four justifications for CSR: moral obligation, sustainability, license to operate, and reputation. Which do you think is the most important for Shell?
ReplyDeleteI think Brian was basically saying those companies that just give you the warm and fuzzes but have no sustainability with what they do are good at making the numbers warm and fuzzy too. Their only responsibility is to SEC for the moment but beyond that they are an Enron waiting to happen!
ReplyDeleteI believe Shell feels they have a moral obligation for long-term sustainability which provides them the license to operate ultimately enhancing their reputation. There was a time when reputation was everything but as a supplier to Shell I have seen a dramatic change, for the better, over the last 10 - 12 years.
Definitely enjoyed reading these interviews, Audrey. When considering Shell, it was interesting to me how much of their work seemed to be around people (community stakeholders, employees), in particular safety. At my company we have embarked on an ambitious safety campaign, so I could identify with Wilson's discussion of safety. It's a key responsibility consideration as well as a financial one, as injured employees mean additional costs, especially weighing the risks of the oil and gas industry. I'd be interested to hear more about Shell's efforts to diversify into more sustainable fuels and how integral these areas are to the company's strategy for the future.
ReplyDeleteIt is good to hear that you have seen a change for the better over the last 10-12 years! I have a good friend that always knocks oil companies like Shell, claiming conspiracy theories that they buy up patents to higher efficiency power supplies to ensure their continued market share and growth. Just curious, do you see a company like Shell doing this? If so what does it say about their sustainability practices?
ReplyDeleteNik, personally, I don't see Shell doing that. They do want to stay competitive but at what cost, no one knows. I think we can always question ethics against sustainability practices but would it stand up if they can prove impact of their practices.
DeleteAudrey, I enjoyed your interview with the individual from Enron. Living in Houston it's hard not know or work with someone who is rebuilding their 401K (and lives) after Enron. It's hard to imagine today being one of those Enron employees who followed their leadership's urging and invested all the retirement in company stock. If you haven't seen the movie, "The Smartest Guys in the Room" or read the book by the author of The Economist article, you should. It's worth the time to read some of words spoken by Ken Lay at the last Enron shareholders meeting.
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